nova test

DSC_6463 copyA quick test

f13

8sec

320iso

17mm – 25mm equiv.

used the finger and thumb technique to judge where to attain 90 degree from the brightest light source in the area with the pillar as the focal point.

focused on the pillar in aperture priority mode at f2.8.  then, switched to manual mode and changed to f13.

corrected for barrel distortion using lens profile and flattened out histogram in photoshop both in raw then in jpg.

same image without edit:

DSC_6463

 

  • Phonow

    howdy. Chris is wondering which is your major light source? Is it the ferris wheel? If the major light source was somewhere else, where was the light located. He likes your picture, looks nice and sharp.

    • http://etane.net/ etane

      aloha means hello.

      the light source is pretty much where the haagan daaz store is except on the other side of the pillar.

      so, if the haagan daaz is 1:30 clock wise from the pillar, the light source is about 4:30 from the pillar.

      actual light source is a store front with white signage lit up with fluorescent lights.

      glad chris approved!

      • Phonow

        Hafa adai etane-sama. I will let photo-meister know you replied. :-)

        • http://etane.net/ etane

          i wish i only have to work for hafa adai. = D

          • Phonow

            ??

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            half a day…

          • Phonow

            hahahaha. more coffee for me please.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            kona? hahahahah

          • Phonow

            once in a blue moon I splurge on kona coffee– from a friend of a friend’s farm–nice discount.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            just read up on “big sugar”. almost sounds like pre civil war south.

          • Phonow

            yeah, bad sh^t. my dad worked for the sugar mill– and went through the strikes. that is why i am such a strong union supporter. ilwu helped him earn a decent wage, a house, and $ to send his kids to college.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            was your dad “imported labor”? wiki said most labor came from asia then india. and, lots of environmental impact from deforestation and loss of freshwater. me clueless haha.. hawaii looks beautiful.

          • Phonow

            nope–my great grandfather came here– don’t know if he worked for sugar. Back then, big sugar was a major employer, so dad went there to work. Sugar was horrible for the environment (like golf courses today lol), but man, I do miss seeing miles of sugar cane, and the smell of burning sugar. (they burnt off the leaves before harvest).

            We do have water wars here–sugar redirected freshwater from streams through a series of dikes & tunnels. A lot of people want the rivers restored–to grow taro, and reestablish native fish. But hey, hotels, golf courses, and new subdivisions are much more important. ;)

            hawaii is VERY beautiful, but, the whole thing is getting plowed under. cost of living is very high, and the # of homeless here is shocking.

            BUT in hawaii azns rule. lol. asian/white ratio is about 60/40? (too lazy to look up census). Come & visit hawaii — e komo mai!

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            i was reading about how the employers instilled a caste system to prevent workers from working together to fight for workers’ rights. sounds like the tower of babel…

          • Phonow

            yes. the genius of ilwu is that they made the workers EAT together. they shared each other’s food and became brothers.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            they MADE workers eat together? = P

            i eat with an right wing extremist for lunch almost every day. nothing good come out of it so far. we’ve not agreed on a single thing haha.

          • Phonow

            lol. my extreme right wing ex came over (i’m at home). Strangely enough, we’re the best of friends, as long as we don’t talk politics.

            is your right wing lunch mate asian? Jeez… must get tiresome talking about the weather. lol.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            he’s white. it’s interesting to learn about the right wing. funny thing is he doesn’t think he’s right wing. but, i don’t think i am liberal either.

            he was like, why am i getting all these ads from right wing networks on his facebook? hahaha

          • Phonow

            I think we all are a mish mash of right & left leanings– depending on our own perspective/situation.

            btw– the “guest” on jl.net is probably wukong. “Are the Lakers stuck in the stone age?” (saw her post as guest on the other website a while ago). she hates me for bitchin out gasparthe2. :-)

            saw your new baby pictures–little pretty girl! is that a basketball nerf ball? is daddy trying to influence her in some way?

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            it’s not a matter of who is right or left but how someone comes to know what they know is true.. epistemology haha.

            it’s like i ask how he knows what some of the things he believes to be true and he can’t back them up.. he’d go on the internet and find things to back them up and it’s always the same sources created by the same people who said cigarettes are harmless.

            now why would you bitch gasparthe2 out? = P

            i have a basketball hoop set up in her room. she was not walking well enough for her age. so, the basketball hoop is there to help with her development.

          • Phonow

            haha. you can “prove” just about anything via the internet. i am just as guilty as your workmate, but of course, MY sources are legitimate, and his sources are right wing propaganda sites. lol

            re g-2– he got into a fight w/justpassingby on jl.net. mostly about where to put what and why, and to which family member. mod banned them both. g-2 went to the other site, and wrote about the negative elements on jl.net, and how it is “a huge contrast to the integrity of the fans at the JLin portal. I salute us for our fortitude :]” oh barf.

            G2 started the fight w/a troll-baiting post, & JPB bit. Then he blamed jl.net for being negative. I dislike hypocrisy AND their pious, self righteous spiel. i went to portal and scolded G2, which got wukong (aka ‘guest”) involved. blah blah blah…. lol.

            Sweet baby girl, she melts my heart. All too soon, she will be swishing sky hooks. :-)

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            lol we are all independent on the internet. but some are more willing than others to accept bad sources as long as it supports their ideology.

            didn’t know g2 was a tool who was reporting back to dear leader haha. pitchfork no longer comes around anymore. wonder why.

            baby girl swishes into daddy’s heart haha.

      • Phonow

        The 90 degree rule applies to sunlight (night light is a different set of rules.) For the night shot above, you need to play around with the light meter you have on your camera so the light evens out. Point your camera at the ground, and point your camera at the brightest light at the scene in aperture mode. You will see the shutter speed change between the two. Cut the difference in half, and that’s a good starting point.

        There are empty pixels in your photograph above– look at the white portions of Chris’s photograph–http://www.christophernovasmithphotography.com/Galleries/Landscape-2014/i-Pnhrfzf notice how the light has luminance and texture? In your photograph, there are areas that are blown out.

        to be continued

        • Phonow

          For example, blow up the bottom left hand corner of your photograph by the L’Occident store. Notice how the line of the store disappears (parallel to the tree trunk). This is caused by lost data in the pixels.

          In your baby girl pictures, try not to shoot straight into the sun– the 90 degree rule applies here. Of course, once in a while, you *want* the flares. Experiment & try to control the light better. The best way to deal with this kind of picture is with a mini flash, so you can speed up the shutter, making the background darker, but your baby will be nice and bright. (this a quickie fix–there are other ways of dealing with background light)

          • Phonow

            Chris says that your photos are really good, and you have a good eye. Hopefully, some of the photo hints will make your photos “pop” even more. Your focus is right, and you are doing good work!

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            Thanks Chris! (and thanks for being our go between = P).

            i think i have good eye for spatial and color. otherwise i have no art creation ability if not for a camera.

            http://www.christophernovasmithphotography.com/Galleries/Landscape-2013/i-Mx8X72f

            is there error in the info? f1 aperture?

          • Phonow

            IIRC, he said in the past that the settings are straight from the camera. I’ll ask.

            Hubbie wants to go out n play. lol. talk to you later. :-)

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            That was my Samyang 8mm f3.5 Fisheye

            http://www.christophernovasmithphotography.info/My%20Gear

            Basically like it is described, my camera believes I have attached a slice of lemon on the end of the mount, lol. So the info comes back as F1, meaning there is no lens. Shooting with that lens if shooting in full Manuel mode, every aspect of the photograph is done blindly. There has been times when the setting I have chosen to do, has showed me a black screen on live mode and almost pure darkness in the view finder. It teaches you real quick what each of the settings mean and how to use them properly.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            oh right those korean lenses might not transmit some photo data. you were telling me about the rokinon fish eye which i also looked at previously. i actually got the rokinon 8.5mm 1.4 before thinking i can use that as a macro for my fish tank but that didn’t turn out so well so returned it to amazon.

            i do want a wider lens with good aperture than 17mm cuz crop sensor makes it 25mm which isn’t very wide. but, nikon doesn’t have any wider lens that doesn’t cost a fortune over f2. i’d have to get an fx lens or a 3rd party which would be a pain since i’d have to correct for lens distortion manually with most 3rd party. my ps is cs3 so it doesn’t have most 3rd party lens profile installed.

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Yeah its a pain at times I have the 8mm for my A550 and A100 and the A99 uses the Minolta 16mm, They all lack lens correction. In fact non of my lenses has that option in Camera raw, Lightroom, or Photoshop. I just have to be consious of the barrel distortion and frame in a manner I can correct by hand generically.

            My 20mm is a flat element lens so the distortion is much less and easier to take care of, but it only has about 94 degrees of view vs. 170- 180 degrees (depending on the lens). I am interested in the Sony 16-35 f2.8 lens by Carl Zeiss, it would give a 107 degree view which is ultra wide and has lens correction setting. Although it starts at 2000.00 so it will be a long time for that one.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            i am very much interested in these zeiss lenses too. i had a yashica t4 many years ago which produced beautiful pictures. it had a zeiss tessar lens on it.

            actually, if i changed over to a sony system then i can sorta share lenses between sony dslrs and the nex systems… something to contemplate. only the nikon 17-55mm is keeping me with nikon system at the moment. it was a large chunk o change but well worth it i think. it’s surpassed three bodies thus far.

            the sony 16-35mm could be well worth it too if you can find a well cared for 2nd hand. that’s how i got the 17-55mm.

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Its how I obtain all my lenses, lol.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            shooting into the sun of course is an “artistic” decision haha. trying to get that moody effect. my hoya clear lens tends to create flare when i shoot directly into light source. it goes away if i take it off. but, i prefer to have the flares for such types of photos for effect.

            i recall when i made those shots that day, the light shining into the room was “beautiful” so wanted to capture the “light” as much as possible and using my daughter to give the light some form. i really like the hotspots the reflections created on the drawing stand too and on the floor plus the shadow created by the shades. and, really like how the light blocks the view outside the window…

          • Phonow

            I remember as a child how much i loved playing on the floor, sitting in the warm sunlight. :-)

            I know that chris was writhing in pain when he “critiqued” your photographs. he hates criticism, and hates to criticize others. lol. I wrung it out of him. (i’m your internet tiger auntie)

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            criticisms don’t always hit me right away, but i do absorb them better with second and third reads. we always like to think that we are good at taking criticisms but i realize it’s natural for people to not accept them openly and try to rationalize things one way or another. so, i understand that why people don’t like to give criticism because they also get criticized back haha.

          • Phonow

            we are only human. i know it takes a lot of courage to post things near and dear to you on the internet. but the rewards are also great.

            I can tell you that he feels that your pictures are way above the usual weekend photographer. And I know I appreciate your photography also. just beautiful!

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            i hope you saw this coming

            = D

          • Phonow

            lol. chris sez he wants you to “come over to Kansas. we’ll pop a beer and take pictures of tornadoes from the roof.” ha ha.

            chris turned me on to this video: photographer’s wet dream w/great music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgaGCJfCHjU

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            The vid is a Photographers a videographers wet dream.

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          • http://etane.net/ etane

            reminds me that i no longer have any morcheeba albums since i sold them all when i got rid of my analog set up.

            the time lapse are breath taking especially floating on iceberg at 1:20 macaroon like clouds at 3:20

          • Phonow

            beautiful lenticular cloud. http://www.thelivingmoon.com/43ancients/02files/Cloud_Images_Lenticular_01.html

            i regret getting rid of my old stereo & vinyl records– but it just got too hard to lug everything around. heck, it’s getting hard to lug CDs around. lol.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            thanks for the tidbit on lenticular clouds. my brain feels fed.

            yes the moving around and storaging vinyl is a pain plus constantly calibrating the tone arm to get it to sound just right not to mention getting out of my seat every 10 minutes to change sides.. haha

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            lol, it’s an acid trip to listen too. There is 4 killer shots in there. I lived in Arizona for years and I must say the skies where boring. Arizona is a landscapers nightmare, I believe this is why most photographers in Arizona Photoshops their clouds in with either personal shots of clouds or stock photos. You want crazy mood intensive clouds? Go to the Midwest or hang with me on the Pali Lookout in Nuuanu, Oahu. lol, the brightest, clearest days turns to pure evil ever time i get close to that area. Phonow can share some input on that noise.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            HAHAHAHA!! i think i got this orb cd back in highschool which is more than 20 yrs ago. so, all this time i’ve been listening to this song, the lyrics were all pure fabrications. there’s no fluffy little clouds that are orange and red as if they catch on fire? all lies?

            i just read about the upcoming D7200 and am very disappointed. think Nikon wants me to buy a canon or sony. really like the A7 but don’t want EVF. had a fuji x100 with EVF and can never get into it. maybe canon 6d or sony a99 like yours.

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Not say there never is, but most of what is photographed in Arizona is Photoshopped skies. I see a lot of pictures with skies that are over worked all over the world. I believe it’s to over compensate for something.

            I would be rathered worried if I seen the skies some people release. How much poison from emissions can a person really handle? Pretty colors may draw attention, but if people really think about what their pictures are really saying, then it becomes clearer how scarey the situation is.

            Take for instance these:

            In one photo a lightening bolt is screaming across the sky for several hundreds of miles. Looks cool, so how many died in the RF energy released? How many has cancer, and how many was electrocuted along the great path of death in the sky. Lol

            The other one clearly is a stolen photo by a cell phone from a website. What is worse is this was a picture sent to my ex (as if he took the photo), lol, to impress her with his skills. Hahahahaa, he actually thinks shes fooled.

            In the picture you can see the seperation of the sky from the tree. (extremely bad photoshop job). next the colors in the sky, what’s on fire in the background and what gas and crap is in the sky falling on me. I would run inside and grab a gas mask if this was going on around me. People go to great extents to over edit their, I do not understand why. Is it because they do not think nature is actually beautiful on it’s own? or is it their lack of skill or creativity.

            I believe photos should be a documentation of what you see. All photographers will bump up colors and sharpness, but there is a point when even fantasy space-scape photos go to far.

            I haven’t seen photos or pictures like this in Time Magazine or National Geographic. I believe for reason, lol.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            so the two take aways from your post (that i read) is the zeitgeist that death and suffering is beautiful as long as you don’t see the actual death and suffering and that unnatural is beautiful in the eye of the photographer perhaps because it gives the person who took the photo to take a bit of ownership and authorship away from nature?

            perhaps the third take away is i can get honeys by showing off my photography skills haha.. i was told that “otaku” in taiwan have three treasures: anime, road bikes and cameras. if you google image “otaku photographer” you’d find out how “sexy” photographers are considered in my home country haha.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            oh about taking pics of tornadoes off of roof tops. that actually sounds fun.

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Yeah I love this video

          • Phonow

            lol., you are responding to a year old comment?

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Its the only one I can find on his site, everything else says its 2+ years old. lol

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Good tune

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Can not argue with that. :)

        • http://etane.net/ etane

          haha you teach me one technique and i usually apply it ways it was not intended.

          added un-editted version of the pic above for reference. pic is a lot less blown out. the edited version is blown out because my priority when editing was just to flatten out the historgram to see what it would look like.

          the freeway shot is very humbling. the details in the whites are scrumptious. i will take better note of this detail going foward.

          when i play with shutter speed, two things that dictate what speed i use when night shooting is 1) fastest speed to capture the detail 2) slowest speed to get enough light without too much noise. of course, this is where iso comes into play too. but, being that my camera isn’t state of the art, i am really limited by noise. this is why i can’t wait for the D7200 and hopefully a D400 or D9300 to come out. want to keep the DX form factor but better sensor technology.

          • Phonow

            G’morning etane. In a couple of weeks, chris will be in kansas. so…. might be better to converse with him via his comments page. (or whichever method you have been conversing). haha. I am a bad filter for his messages; he talks, I interpret & type. hearing the instructions straight from chris is better. lol.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            well he’s here now so it’s all good = D

          • Phonow

            haha. we sort of started doing the transcribing thing, then he said it would be better if he went on. lol.

            Good. I was starting to feel like that Mandela fake sign-language man. lol. so sorry me no speak camera.

            he just left to go to gathering. when i called up your website, he immediately said the second picture was much better.

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            The unedited one is a world of difference. That is a usable photo for media sources such as TV, newspaper, and so on.

            As for noise, I use to worry about it as well. I am not one to believe equipment is my limitation. There is bonuses to newer equipment, but I weigh in what would I actually achieve with it. Is it something I can learn to do on my own or do I actually need to go into debt? As you see from my gear list, I do not have the newest of best equipment out there. I also only have a few Items. I have flaws in my photos, I have noise in my photos, I still combat the refraction issues of my lenses. It gives character and people seem to like it. Some of the best photographs in the world is not pixel peaked because the flaws are obvious, but the photograph is still great by all standards of art, history, and professional photography. Something to think about.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            “That is a usable photo for media sources such as TV, newspaper, and so on.”

            = D thanks. and thanks for dropping a note on my blog.

            of course i am not saying better equipment will get me better photography skills. just saying i am quite frustrated with noise and i don’t even pixel peep haha. but it’s all relative. i’ve moved from d80 to d90 then to d7000 and each one provided me with a boost in usable iso although i think with some loss in color rendering. the d80 was a ccd chip that provided much richer color than the later cmos chips. before the d7000, dimly lit indoor pics was nearly impossible.

            but, sensor technology has improved a lot during the past few years, so can’t wait to get a later iteration of such at my disposal. these would be quite mainstream. even the d3300 has better sensor than the d7000. of course, sony leads the way with their sensor technology. the nex3n i bought a friend has more usable iso than the D7000 and i got it for $300 with kit lens. also, i go for the bang for the buck. coulda got the d7100 instead of d7000 but didn’t think the difference between the two is worth the extra moolah.

          • http://www.christophernovasmith.photography/ Christopher Nova Smith

            Someday down the long road I would love to get a 80meg Phase One, but who wouldn’t. At 50,000+ I don’t see it happening, although a 40meg Hasselblad is a bit cheaper at 20-40,000 (depending on model) I have a better chance during this life time.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            lol that is a lot of money per megapixel. i can’t even afford a single megapixel at that rate nor the amount of memory cards to store the pics during a road trip!