Game 7: Sane Lin Fans vs Linsane Fans

The game starts off no different than most games this season.  The starters with the twin towers gives up a big lead in the first quarter.  And, the second squad comes in, usually only 2 players, and gets some points back.  Except, tonight, Lin was in that second squad along with Casspi and Houston made up a 20 point difference before half time.

However, Houston had a horrible second half as Clippers made defensive adjustments while the Rockets only tried to plow the ball to Harden.  Quoting McHale:

We were on the line trying to get it to 13 and then it just snowballed from there. We missed some shots and we started doubting it and we stopped taking some shots that we needed to take. Then we got a lot of turnovers and then we just got really passive. The Clippers really took advantage of it.

So, after the game, I hopped around to a few sites and found a few comments on Facebook that I thought were a bit disturbing.  A few Asian Americans were posting on the Rockets’ Facebook page trying to educate other Asians on how to be “good” fans.  I find that this type of commnique to be similar to how Houston PR were employing writers in the past to condition fans to accept certain unfavorable scenarios such as moving Jeremy to the bench.  It’s more peculiar that they are sharing the exact sentiment which is if you care about Lin then you will not flood Facebook with your comments.

I honestly don’t know whether these are real Asian American Lin fans who honestly feel other Asian Lin fans are giving Lin a harder time fitting in with the Rockets because of their flooding the Rockets’ Facebook page or they are not who they seem to be.  I think the timing of the posts are especially conspicuous since this is the first game right after the Lakers game where there were alleged incidences of scapegoating the loss on Lin by teammates and coaches.

Anyways, I took screen shots of the posts to save for posterity sakes:

Asian Fans

It is in my opinion that the purpose of social media such as corporate pages on Facebook are specifically for fans/customers to reach out, so these businesses can hear the “voice of the customer”.  I am not sure how it would be beneficial to either Lin or the Rockets by remaining quiet.  And, for change to occur, we might as well use the media tools available and create a ground swell that the Rockets organization cannot ignore.

Last observation.  It appears there were a lot of Asians at the game this evening.  I don’t think the organization don’t want to focus on the concerns of their largest growing market segment.

Just got back from the game.

No exaggeration: I haven’t been among so many Asians since I went to Tokyo (different nationalities of course).

If we traded Lin we’d lose 30% of our fans.

Harden had no business being out there. There comes a point when you must tell your player “no, you won’t play today”.

Basically, our team is this: two centers tripping over each other and a bunch of three point shooters who, when they aren’t hitting three pointers….

Meanwhile decent players rot on the bench. How Brewer would have helped on perimeter D today.

McHale, God love him, nice guy and all, this MUST be his last year as our “coach”.

Credit.

  • laetitia

    These supposed AAs are just mad and afraid that their ‘standing’ with average Americans (aka Caucasian), will be affected by being labeled Asian fanatics. I agree, and I too, dislike those who want to teach others HOW TO FAN. But it happens. It’s just the extra dimension of Lin, being Asian, at a very sensitive time in America.

    • http://etane.net/ etane

      That was my original thought as well. Then, I just think it’s too coincidental that they all appear at about the same time to say the same things especially considering this is the first time I saw such messages on Rockets’ FB. Plus the timing with the Laker game incident.

      • laetitia

        Definitely something suspicious there. I would not be surprised if these turned out to be fake accounts held by ??.

      • alcsd

        Remember the name “Tuan Tran”? He told us over at JeremyLIn.net that we should be nice to Mc or else Lin will get more hate…

        • http://etane.net/ etane

          No I don’t remember him but, again, interesting observation. The doughnut willy guy up top is viet too.

          • alcsd

            Tuan Tran was the reason why I self-banned myself from the other site.

          • alcsd

            How easy is it to create fake facebook account? I know the real Bieber gotten at least 30% of twitter followers, but don’t know about facebook.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            I do know there are practices where you can pay for PR firms who outsource to “clickfarms” to like you FB page or follow your twitter to make it seem like company/celebrity to seem more popular than they really are. Fake FB page is a natural progression? Not saying those up top are fake. They could be real people (with an agenda).

          • alcsd

            I don’t have facebook and twitter account so I can’t follow these people trails. Could you see those people above their previous conversations or discussions? In other words, look at their history.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            I quickly checked a couple of their FB page and they seem real.

          • alcsd

            Key words: “quickly” =”real” ???
            You might want to check them out thoroughly. P

            BTW, your avatar is supposed to be what?

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            It’s a screen shot of the joy division video I posted last week. I am not a detective, so there you go. = P

          • alcsd

            :D

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            = F

          • alcsd

            ==P

    • BPM

      i could not disagree with what Duong guy said. Tebow fans are hella annoying and it backlash against him.

  • SamC89

    There’s a difference between being classless and being a vocal fan who wants to call out injustice. To wish an injury on another player is classless. But calling out the unfair treatment that Lin has and is still receiving is the right thing to do.

    I’m also a bit skeptical about the timing of these posts, but at the same time, I’ve seen this behavior among some AAs before as well. Those that are afraid to speak up and constantly try to distance themselves from other AAs.

  • JK

    Good article. Reminds me of BambooForest’s whole shroud of ambiguity when he first started posting.

    • http://etane.net/ etane

      Thanks JK. I tried to give narrative/background to what and how things went down in the Laker game 6 post. I don’t see it quite as clearly as I did for game 7. The blow back after game 7 from LOHs are apparent in that they are only focusing on the third quarter and are completely disregarding 1) how other players did during Q1, Q3 and Q4 and 2) how Lin contributed to team efficiency during Q2 without which this would have been a much uglier game that what it was. That said, I don’t have the time or energy to make every post as detailed as my game 6 post. = P

      • JK

        Yeah, you’re fighting a multi-headed monster on that front.

        • http://etane.net/ etane

          But you’re free to help elaborate the issues here in comment section. Crowd source!

  • alcsd

    I didn’t watch the game and won’t watch until Lin is traded, but after the flop warning, Harden only went to the line ONCE. He was 4/15 and ended up with 12 points and 5 assists. Hope this trend continues. Morey will be exposed as a “fake genius” and his manufactured superstar is just a “manufactured superstar.” And the world will take notice. Too bad Les just gave you an extension or else I was going to suggest you polish your resume.

    • http://etane.net/ etane

      Excellent observation especially coming from someone who didn’t watch the game! My favorite stat line during yesterday’s half time was that Harden didn’t even get a chance to get to the charity stripe not even once. Like you said, the flop warning is in effect. I first saw the flop warning during the afternoon of the Lakers game where Harden got 16 FTAs. So, the warning itself probably didn’t stop Harden from flopping. But, the Rockets organization probably asked Harden to stop flopping before the Clipper’s game.

      Further, Harden got only 5 FTAs against Clippers in the first match up. So, a lot of this probably has to do with Doc telling his players to not fall for the eurostep bait.

      • alcsd

        “I first saw the flop warning during the afternoon of the game versus
        the Lakers then Harden got 16 FTAs. So, the warning itself probably
        didn’t stop Harden from flopping. But, the Rockets organization
        probably asked Harden to stop flopping before the Clipper’s game.”

        I am confused here? Did he get the warning after the Lakers game so that was why he stop flopping the next game (vs Clippers)? Which game did he flop that got him the warning?

        Someone who is that obsessed with stats would listen to the Rockets? I don’t think so.

        • http://etane.net/ etane

          The flop warning came on the same day as the Laker game. Warning was released to press during the day while the game is at night. He got the warning for the Trailblazer game.

          And, Harden doesn’t listen to anybody on the Rockets because he is given free reign by Morey. So, Morey still has sway with Harden. Morey can bench or trade Harden tomorrow if he wanted to.

          • alcsd

            Since I didn’t watch the game, did he try to flop or he didn’t at all? Would it the warning or his injury?

            Morey won’t trade Harden unless he get back Durant/Lebron/Melo/Rose back. SF/SG are more important positions in winning titles than C/PF position unless his name is Duncan.

            We will see what happens in the next few games.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            Yah not saying he would trade Harden but he has the authority to. I don’t recall Harden doing his typical driving into three defenders as he usually would. But, I was multitasking when watching the game. So, maybe I missed some. Injury may have bothered him? He had a monster game against Lakers just days ago though. My guess would be the defense although Harden didn’t look very sharp during the game, so it could be injury.

          • alcsd

            But why play if he wasn’t able to draw fouls because it would mean his stats will suffer?

            Correction: he has a very game in terms of numbers only and he went to the line 8 times, but his shooting efficiency was very bad.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            Right? His stats are monster but his results for the team is mouse.

            Remember, the last time James sat out a game, the Rockets beat Clippers with a Twin Tower that overpowered Jordan/Blake. James wouldn’t want to see that happen again especially after the Clippers bombed Rockets last game and many tried to scapegoat Lin for not being able to cover CP3. Had Rockets beat Clippers w/o Harden last night, maybe people in the media might start questioning whether Lin was really the the goat or maybe it was Harden.

          • alcsd

            You are talking about last year twin towers of smith/asik? Harden didn’t sit out this year except for that questionable benched by MC or self-benching for the entire 4th quarter because he didn’t want to be embarrassed further.

            “James wouldn’t want to see that happen again especially after the
            Clippers bombed Rockets last game and many tried to scapegoat Lin for
            not being able to cover CP3. Had Rockets beat Clippers w/o Harden, then
            maybe people in the media might start questioning whether Lin was
            really the scapegoat or maybe it was Harden.”

            This sounds like someone is very paranoid. He has a lot of issues and I don’t think a shrink can help him either.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            It’s more a kin to white collar crime right? What’s the worse that can happen to him suppose the cat gets out of the bag? There’s very little incentive for him to stop now. Look at how many years MLB tried to hide the fact that, according to Canseco, 90% of baseball players are roided up.

          • alcsd

            Maybe I am a bit slow because my mind is on shopping (because I am about to go very soon), but I don’t get answer/reply here? What is the analogy here?

            I don’t watch baseball, but I can tell by looking at those guys that the majority of them are on roid.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            It means the organization will allow any bad conduct as long as it helps generate revenue. Baseball’s popularity was waning during the 80′s until McGwire and Sosa started bashing HRs. Everyone in baseball knew they and most everyone else were roiding but they kept a blind eye. Similarly, NBA will keep promoting Harden despite his flaws so as long as NBA thinks there’s benefit to be reaped.

          • alcsd

            NBA wanting to promote Harden? Or is it Morey wanting to promote a second tier player into first because his reputation and $80M is at stake?

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            It’s like a cartel. If you’re a GM of a relatively large market team, you will get a seat in the NBA board room.

          • alcsd

            Don’t think Stern is that excited about Harden, except Morey and only Morey.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            Stern needs to play ball with the other owners/gms too though. And, every team wants to promote somebody.

          • alcsd

            You do realize Stern represents or works for the owners right? And yet they are afraid of him except the outspoken Cuban. Only a handful of players are promoted by the NBA and Harden is one of them.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            It does seem there are factions pushing for him?

          • alcsd

            Morey and the Rox are pushing for him, but I don’t see Stern’s hand in this at all. If Melo and Duncan are not the chosen ones, then it’s an insult to them that Harden is even mentioned at all.

            Melo and Duncan are superstars because of their talents. The chosen ones (Durant/Rose/Westbrook/Lebron/CP3/Kobe/Wade-past chosen one Jordan) all are very exciting players. They make the game exciting to watch. Watching Harden plays is as nausea as watching a drunken sailor on a shipwreck.That is not the image that Stern likes to see.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            That’s the point. Without some invisible hand, who will care about Harden?

          • alcsd

            Even with the invisible hand of only Morey (and not Stern), no one cares about him either. The truth about all the players will always be revealed sooner or later and in this case, people already are catching on with his act.

            He is not a household name and doesn’t have the “it” factor and combined it with his playing style, all he can do is dream of being Kobe/Lebron.

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            He has enough support to be voted into the AS game by the GMs last year though probably won’t happen this year with the fiascos?….. he is a “push” product not a “pull” product.

          • alcsd

            Only 30 coaches are allowed to vote for 7 players into the AS within their conference. Here is an excerpt:

            “In selecting the reserves, the 30 NBA head coaches must vote for seven
            players within their conference, including two guards, three frontcourt
            players and two players regardless of position. Coaches are not
            permitted to vote for players on their team. After the coaches select
            the reserves, if a player is unable to participate in the All-Star Game,
            NBA Commissioner David Stern will select a replacement. Reserves will
            be announced Jan. 24, on TNT”

            http://www.nba.com/2013/news/01/17/all-star-2013-starters-announced/

            Morey pushes really hard for Harden, but the truth will always surface and in this case, it’s starting to unravel. Morey is only good at pushing himself as a genius…Les could hire me for half salary what he is paying this fake genius.^^

            Without Lin, Rox wouldn’t make the playoffs last year. Harden didn’t carry this team on his back, in fact, he weigthed them down. Top 5 player is a joke. Top 5 player will carry his team into the player with or without Lin.

          • alcsd

            What did I tell you earlier? Morey’s luck is about to run out. Karma is a bitch and won’t let him get away with it. Maybe he should polish on his resume just in case…..

          • alcsd

            You might want to check some the latest SI article about Harden. Spot on. SI is taking notice…who is next..? At this rate, he won’t be voted into the AS and will be most hated player by the fans and players.

            http://etane.net/forums/topic/news-2/#post-1380

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            Yup this is what I warned about in my open letter to rockets post. He is a walking PR disaster waiting to happen. He’s the worst possible role model for young basketball players because he’s a ball hog, doesn’t hustle and blame teammates for everything gone wrong. And, not to mention, his off court activities is well known to be not very wholesome. This is on top of Houston losing so many games last year because of his ball hogging. Morey knew all this I am sure yet he’s the one who created the either Harden or Lin false dilemma just so to get Lin off the starters list. It’s simply backfiring. Unfortunately, it’s McHale taking flack not Morey for this. He has the nerve to get on video interview to explain what’s going wrong when he just has to say “it’s me, buck stops here.”

            http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9965669

          • http://etane.net/ etane

            http://www.rotoworld.com/headl

            James Harden said that his bruised foot made it “hard to move” during
            Saturday’s game, in which he scored 12 points on 4-of-15 shooting.

            “I couldn’t really be aggressive like I wanted to,” he said. “I was just
            trying to make plays for my teammates, especially late in the game. It
            kind of got stiff later in the game but that’s not an excuse for us to
            lose.” Harden is a gamer and he’s already played through a half-dozen
            injuries this year, but we’ll keep an eye on his status for Monday’s
            home game vs. the Raptors.

          • alcsd

            I didn’t see this one earlier, and can’t help but laugh at this quote:

            “I was just trying to make plays for my teammates, especially late in the game”
            My teammates…? what a fraud! Who is he trying to fool? He was able to fool the masses before, but I think people are starting to catch on that he is selfish, and not just Lin fans.

  • alcsd

    Since you mentioned in your previous blog about Harden’s defense. I do want to point out that he only plays defense if they show up in stats sheet (steals, bs, ba, rebs), but won’t do things like taking charges or help defense. To me that is not being intelligent, but being selfish and calculated. Selfish does not mean intelligent. And being calculated by not seeing the bigger picture tells me that this person’s IQ isn’t that high. I mean why counting pennies when when you can have dollars if you plays the right way.

    • http://etane.net/ etane

      Yup he plays defense just enough to maximize the stats that counts positively towards his EFF stats and avoids committing PFs as much as possible because those negatively affect his EFF.

      Whether he is high or low IQ relatively depends on his motivation, and I think his motivation is unique and different from all other players, and that’s why he’s probably misunderstood to be a low IQ player. He also doesn’t seem to have no remorse for the detriments he is causing others which can also translate to low IQ. But, I think this is akin to financial traders who are only out to line their pockets without care for their employer’s or client’s well being. It’s ruthless but not low IQ.

      • alcsd

        Harden is not a low IQ player. People misunderstood his selfishness, laziness and unwillingness to do the dirty work for low IQ. I would say he is a very good actor. But oscar actors and actresses do win the Razzles award too.

        Harden is cold blooded and ruthless with no remorse. Go and read my the latest “good ole day thread”.

        “He also doesn’t seem to have no remorse for the detriments he is
        causing others which can also translate to low IQ. But, I think this is
        akin to financial traders who are only out to line their pockets
        without care for their employer’s or client’s well being.”

        That is why I call him a 2 headed snake. Very deadly. Melo is nothing compares to him and that is the reason why I don’t hate Melo.

  • laetitia

    Hey there.

    I just thought an angle you could use to write another article. Perhaps you’ve already done so, but i’ll just share the idea here.

    Saw this posted on the other board.

    “Rocket’s Media SMH. How do they lead when it just started today? We’ll show them who will lead.

    Dwight Howard, James Harden lead five Rockets on All-Star ballot
    http://blog.chron.com/ultimate…”
    Do read the convo. As I was writing my comment, it dawned on me, that we’ve never really talked about the Houston fanbase, and how Rockets PR media seemed to work so “well” on them. I mean, they are pretty unquestioning, as far as I can tell, the ones protesting the Lin demotion, are mainly ppl like us, non-Houston residents.
    Perhaps there is something here, you can explore. :)

    • http://etane.net/ etane

      Thanks for the angle = D

      I know the wording is misleading but don’t think there’s any harm done. What this could possibly contribute to is persuading casual Houston fans to vote for those two instead of lesser promoted players. Sorta like when voting for local politicians, one usually votes for the politician who has the most signs put up on neighbors’ lawns as this leads to greater name recognition hence familiarity. This might persuade potentially 10k or 20k Houstonites to vote one way or the other, but this just shows how desperate they are to get their stars voted into the All-Star game.

      There IS perhaps a back story to this “leading” campaign which I will touch on in my next blog post. So, stay tuned, all three of you’s!

      Btw, your link didn’t work, so me relinking for reference: http://blog.chron.com/ultimaterockets/2013/11/dwight-howard-james-harden-lead-five-rockets-on-all-star-ballot/

      • laetitia

        I want you to write on rockets PR in general, how well it seems to work on the local fanbase in Houston. We hardly hear of any protestations or unhappiness with Lin’s demotion and unfair treatment. Most if not all, react like Clutch, seeing the Rox org as unable to do any wrong. In other words, the PR work well on the Houstonians. Whereas for ppl like us, we take a more discriminating and investigative approach to the news source. And let’s face it, we are more cosmopolitan too. That’s why we gravitate toward writers, like Ian O’Connor. I just feel there is something there, the disparity between Houston fans and b-ball fans in general and Lin fans in particular.

        • http://etane.net/ etane

          So it’s an examination of Houston PR on the local populous mainly? Well, I am at a disadvantage as I don’t live in Houston, so I don’t now what media/PR they are subjecting to the locals. I mean things like what is on their radio shows, TV stations, billboards, local newspapers. Then to parse them for techniques either rhetoric, psychological, esteem, hubris and what not. First place to start I guess is examining whatever “local” content that exist on the web. But, even at that, I don’t think I can get a good picture of what the locals are being subjected to. Sorta like why do all texans love driving big pick up trucks, eat cholestrol, inhale smoke, cherish guns and vote replubican. Something in the local water. Can you give me some to examine?

          • laetitia

            Not the local populace, just those interested in b-ball. What you are saying would require a huge amount of research. Rox PR machine would include Houston chron, CSN, billboards (which are of JH/ DH now), advertising??, commercials ??, player appearances ??, charitable events ??